During a public work session regarding the Beaver Hill Disposal Site Commissioner Cam Parry entered a motion to work on just three options regarding the Beaver Hill Disposal Site.
1. Build a brand new incineration facility
2. Convert the site to a county owned transfer station
3. Convert the site to a privately owned transfer station
The motion was passed with a unanimous vote of the commissioners.
Number one is the only option that will allow a vote of the people or even allow for a public hearing process. Options two and three will probably not allow for any public hearing process either. Despite the doubt cast on the recent Brady Report claiming the facility is falling apart by an earlier URS report claiming the facility could operate another 15 years with normal maintenance, the commissioners are accepting the Brady report are not willing to consider a third opinion or making repairs to the existing structure.
No time was allowed for public comment during today’s work session but the board has scheduled another meeting for April 18 to report on their “findings and analysis”. There you have it. Without a hew and cry from the public a valuable public asset will be dismantled and scrapped without benefit of public comment or input. Worse, these commissioners will forever forfeit the county’s control of its solid waste management and extend its liability to distant landfills.
Today’s meeting did not address the approximately $1 million arrears owed to the county by Waste Connections.
The county has responded to my public records request and I will be picking up that information tomorrow and will provide it here and video highlights of today’s meeting.
Coastal
April 5, 2012 – 9:47 am
Let me see if I understand your logic: you want to fire up that incinerator again and gamble with someone’s life. As long as it’s not yours, that’s OK? And you don’t care if the County gets sued for millions if someone gets maimed or killed. And that’s OK?
Let me see if I understand your logic: Bigfoot could attack the night crew, ripping their heads from their bodies,and that would be OK?. Or Or Charles Manson could break out of Pelican, and massacre every human on site,and that would be OK? Or sea lions could band together in some kind of mass hysteria and attack the shoreline and rage over the beaches and rip to shreds hundreds of school children on a day trip to the facility,and that would be OK? Well Al, we’ve seen you don’t do well without a posse to back you up, but sweetie, there are just too many scary things in your life, I’d advise treatment.
PS. Al, why do you think you are entitled to tax dollars for your private business, I thought you didn’t like government. But really, what is it that you think entitles you to spend Other People’s Money. What did you do to earn it?
Doesn’t that make you a real first class welfare queen? Thousands of public dollars ? In case you’re wondering about the anger Al? I’ll tell you why, you SCDC FONZI guys laugh at the poor and the working poor, you have funny names for them, all the while you take their tax dollars, for three decades now, and you still are able to turn many of them against those of us trying to help them see what is being done to them. It’s really frustrating to see a good man like Randy Sanne be ridiculed by a “player” like you is infuriating. You won’t walk across the street without a damn posse, or a Messerle to hide behind. At least Sanne is man enough to stand up to his voters and speak to them.
Oh please Coastal, give it up!
It IS ironic that EVERYONE but Brady Consulting was unaware of the dangers….every single person except for one guy who took a day out of his life to come up from California to tell us that EVERY SINGLE ENTITY AND PERSON IN COOS COUNTY was wrong….so by your faulty logic, the BOC, the employees, URS, the residents, the DEQ and EPA were all completely unaware of the deathtrap for over a decade until our knight in shining armor showed up to tell us to close it down? That means that the BOC has been gambling with people’s lives for a long time! What was the deathcount at BHDS over the past decade?
Don’t you have a message board at the World to attend to? We are dealing with reality here, not fanciful sucking up to private companies and no-bid “consultations”.
I confess I deliberated a bit before approving “coastal’s” comment because Al and his many aliases is really a waste of my and everyone’s time but I decided to let it through because it demonstrates how some people are willing to sacrifice logic to make the sale. For example, there is no mention of starting up the incinerator in the post above but Al attempts to divert attention away from the point of the post which is that the public is not getting a chance to properly weigh in on this decision.
Normally I try to respect users’ wishes for anonymity but not when it is used to sow misinformation by a disreputable source. For instance, our self professed IT expert, Mr Pettit, apparently doesn’t realize that every computer leaves a footprint, a signature, a trail of breadcrumbs and identifying trace that even a simple blogger can detect. Stop wasting everybody’s time. If you don’t like what is written here, stop reading but don’t believe for a second that you are pulling the wool over anyone’s eyes. Rather you just look more and more like the buffoon.
Let me see if I understand your logic: you want to fire up that incinerator again and gamble with someone’s life. As long as it’s not yours, that’s OK? And you don’t care if the County gets sued for millions if someone gets maimed or killed. And that’s OK? And since it took eighteen years to reach this state I don’t think your two “appointed’ Commissioners had much to do with the situation since they’ve been in the seat for less than a year. What’s ironic is that elected Commissioners, SW management, SW employees and all of the BOC regulars apparently didn’t have a clue it was falling apart. And now that “valuable asset” is worthless.
I agree with you Colandrio, I’m thankful for the twenty or thirty anti-LNG protesters as well, and your right about them being the only hindrance to those port plans, and especially thankful to Jody for the signs for my front yard, and Mary for this site. My point was that that small amount of protesters won’t be enough to stop these guys from doing what they want. Your probably as dismayed as I am that there weren’t hundreds of protesters showing up at the anti-LNG protests. That many protesters might have stopped the Jordan cove project instead of just delaying it. Sometimes my intent to make a point pisses off the wrong people. This area has a lot of people that would agree with you and or me, but they just will not protest that way. I wish it wasn’t so.
Sadly, the county has weak appearing counsel that was appointed by the two political appointee commissioners – Main claims he did not vote for the current counsel. Unfortunately, with only five years experience as a lawyer, counsel has not been around the track many times. There is much in the world of legal matters that counsel has not encountered or experienced. Penalty articles are made a part of contracts for a reason should a party not honor their contractual obligations – and the people have been told that Waste Connections, led locally by North Bend city Councilman Richardson, have not. There are laws called the laws of reliance. Do they apply here? The people of Coos County contracted for a service in 2009 from people who claimed to be experts in the field. The solid waste facility and incinerators were managed for three years since 2009 in relaince on the competency and accuracy of that 2009 report. Why isn’t the trainee lawyer counseling Parry and others to use their sledge hammer – that’s what it’s there for – to be used at times like this. Why isn’t the trainee lawyer demanding to know why the difference in reports and demanding that report writer of 2009 defend their report. If they failed to provide the expert service that we contracted to receive, time for Parry to get a second sledge hammer. Those in leadership positions in the court house who choose not to be identified state that there should be a role reversal with the junior member of the county cousel office replacing the senior member. The betting is that number two will soon be gone to a better job.
OK, I VOTE to build a new Incinerator! otherwise we are in hock to another Texas Company ! Remember the last – MASTEC – we were in litigation for years with them. I think Cam doesn’t know his head from a hole in the ground – for that matter neither does Freddie Messerle or Mr. Main. I for one would like to know WHY Nikki Whitty, John Griffith, Kevin Stufflebean and Bob Main did not do maintenance (if the report is correct – I have my doubts) since we citizens approved of this and expected our Public Servants to properly administer the Grant. I know Nikki and John were aware of these responsibilities. I knos the Steve Allen who was the Director for several years as wel as Skip Sumstine knew that. Why didn’t they do their duty? Ask yourself when you vote. I believe Mr. Messerle when he was serving as an (alternate) budget committee member, the only one in the history of Coos County) that he was aware of this issue via Nikki, & Kevin and we all know Messerle was a buddy of John Griffiths. This is just nuts as far as I can see. I say dump them all out! Time for a clean slate! It’s time we show them we mean business! Lets get the lame ducks to agree of suspending making these decisions until the new County Commissioners are elected. What’s the hurry guys? Afraid someone is going to uncover the corruption that lurks within?
“Twenty or thirty protesters will have about as much success steering this county government as the anti-LNG crowd has had in changing the political will of the governor and the port.”
Your pessimism, Reminder, is undeserved on this score. If it weren’t for the “anti-LNG crowd” there would now be a 235 mile pipeline and a plant on the north spit next to the NUCOR steel mill and our kids would be struggling with asthma….
“We will have to have large citizen protests or end up like Benton Harbor, Michigan with the commonwealth and our children’s future stolen by non-elected public officials.”
If that’s the only way, then its game over. Twenty or thirty protesters will have about as much success steering this county government as the anti-LNG crowd has had in changing the political will of the governor and the port. Goodbye incinerator.
This BOC has proven they can make their agenda become factual, they just have to wear their blinders, keep their fingers in their ears, and keep Clark busy with his newspaper. It doesn’t look like much will change around here, they (SCDC) have been enjoying a huge head start with all the insiders they have working for their agenda. I expect we will get our new county administrator, before or soon after the next election. Get ready for more non-disclosure agreements, just like the port does.
Benton Harbor is an excellent example of what we have awaiting us without swift and dramatic public action.
What we are seeing here is the Coos County branch of ALEC at work. The oligarchic plan is to attack and dismantle government that works (the Beaver Hill facility), as well as non-governmental agencies that also work (ORCCA). This is class warfare unabashed, and they are tightening the net. See the anti-regulatory bill they are pushing in the Oregon legislature to sweep away any citizen input that may block their plans. The latest SCDC bulletin tells it all. We will have to have large citizen protests or end up like Benton Harbor, Michigan with the commonwealth and our children’s future stolen by non-elected public officials.