When my oldest son, a Marine, left for war and crossed the border from Kuwait into Iraq in March 2003 I started writing my conscience. After two tours that young combat veteran’s mother is now an ardent peace activist and advocate for social, environmental and economic justice.
MGx has matured since those early vents and ramblings and now covers relevant and important local and regional matters in addition to national and global affairs.
Dear Mr. RobLester, there are no guarantees of employment unles you join the priesthood where the church is desperate for people like you. You are not too old to enlist for that role in life.
“The lease is a done deal. And is the only thing holding a possible re-hire in the future……
You all want to screw that up to?
I have to get off this site, it alone is just making hate this place.I wish I were not to old to enlist. I would, and go help in Afghanistan, at least their I have a fighting chance.”
“Help” what in Afghanistan big guy?
You been had by your own company, deal with it, we had to.
Mr. RobLester, please do not try and tell us that IDM ORC did not know before last week that they were stopping operations. These are not credible people. Even a blind man could see that Messerle and Parry feared executing that lease for a year hoping that Main would join them. Then the blame could go to Main who with more senioity should have known this was a bad deal and should have stopped them. Main is apparently not a dumb as they hoped. IDM ORC has been on the verge of collapse for years. You should have followed public information about your company. You sir have been fed baloney. Blame the local person who claims to have been the CEO of two major companies, a trustee of the bankruptcy court, a high level port commissioner, an airport commissioner for not warning you employees that collapse could happen. The IDM ORC managers objective was obvious, get the stock puffed to a point where the company principals could unload their worthless stock and could exercise and sell their stock options. If they could puff the stock by just five cents, much of their millions of unerexercised options would be worth something.
As I said in previous posts.We employees new this was coming. And it would not have if the lease had been signed a year ago. Investors were not willing to bet on a 7 year reserve, but a 15 to 20 they would have. Now, the sample drilling would have needed to be done to see how much chromite is there, that would have been a factor, although, if it were good ( as it is thought to be ), investors would have jumped in, even with the economy. So, blame yourselves and the people who stalled this, all of us do. ( ORC employees that lost jobs )…Happy Now?
As I all ready stated, if anyone knows of $18.00 a hour jobs with benefits, please let me know, I will send you my resume..Hurry though, I will be packing up soon to move out of State to mother in laws, can not afford rent on unemployment, and landlord can not afford to lower rent.
Thanks again, really appreciate people messing with our livelihood that have nothing better to do. My wife, my kids, and 44 other employees wives and children thank you also……..
No, Ron, a lease would not have had any impact on the global market your own CEO is blaming. However, if you want to blame this on a lease then blame the two outgoing commissioners for not signing long ago
If you meant Rob and not Ron, I can tell you for the 5th time…Let me quote from my first reply above, as you people tend to ignore things that do not suit your little whining session….
” Investors were not willing to bet on a 7 year reserve, but a 15 to 20 they would have. Now, the sample drilling would have needed to be done to see how much chromite is there, that would have been a factor, although, if it were good ( as it is thought to be ), investors would have jumped in, even with the economy. ”
Did you get that this time?
Did you work there?…Did you sneak in and go to communication meetings that I was at?
Did you get to see things only ORC employees should have?
I explained this on the other topic. And said it above, twice now. Yes, even with the economy, we would have had a few investors that would have jumped on it.
I do not know how much more to explain this to you….
The more reserves we have, the more profit, and the more wiggle room to store it and be willing to wait 6 months to a year for the reserves to go down. ( but you do not know about that part )
So, yes, we would still be running, we would still be buying presents for our family, yes, unemployment would be the same, and not up by 45 people. ( do not forget the trickle down effect, it will be far more then that )
Yes, the stalling of the lease cost us our jobs. I know, I worked there. We can only hope ( but not holding my breath ) that the drilling will be soon, and the percentage of chromite will be high, and maybe, just maybe, a investor will jump in sooner then 6 to 12 months. Or, maybe some will here about this and jump in….Doubtful.
Either way, blame who you want…..We know who is to blame on this.
Roblester I truly feel for you, the thought of living with my biotch-in-law is as about as appealing as getting my figs caught in my zipper. I am sorry to say that you have been used as a pawn. ORC had no intention of providing you with a long term career nor making a contribution to the local economy. You need to be resentful toward ORC not the people whom are able to see through ORC’s shill. If you would not have been distracted by chasing the pie in the sky you would have done your own homework regarding ORC’s due diligence previous to your employment. The need to do sample drilling is a lie. They sample drilled this long ago. They know what is there & now that they have a re-ASSignable lease they have a free pass to sheet on you & shop a price for the entire operation. ORC has never intended to see this through to the end. Blame yourself for chasing carrots & blame ORC for looking out for #1. How does it feel to be used?
The only ones who used us as pawns were the people fighting. Not even pawns, we were ” hidden martars”….None of you could give a rats ass about people working for a living, and supporting families.
Your opinions are wrong, very wrong.
How about show everyone some facts to back it up?…..Verifiable facts please.
How does it feel to help put 100’s of people out of income?
I know, you all have been patting yourselves on the back, it makes you all feel great!!! …….You won !!!!…..Who cares if a lot of people get hurt, we won and that is all that counts.
I guess the good thing, really, no one reads this site, except mainly CAVE people. ( citizens against virtually everything ). And anyone that takes opinion or theories as fact are idiots anyway.
Verify your statements, I will not hold my breath.
Pig Nuts
on December 4, 2012 at 11:14 AM
Roblester,
Here is your ORC X-Mas present. If you where getting $18 an hour you where getting screwed. Employees of the enterprise zone where to be paid 150% of average gross income. AGI is roughly 36K a year or $17.31 an hour. Plus 150% is $25.97 per hour. Lets round it to an even $8 per hour that you where being shorted. I bet ORC did pay $26 per hour, they paid it to your Port President & owner of West Coast Contractors who setup a mining company called West Coast Miners. At 45 employees being shorted $8 per hour that comes out to be $360 an hour going into the owners pocket. Someone is going to have a nice X-Mas irregardless of the 45 employees being employed or not. Question for you, did they kiss you before being “F”ed?
Who said I was getting $18 a hour?……( show me where, quote it ) See how you ignorant people take things out of text and try to use them?
Thanks for the great example !
Also, for your math assignment. Add in insurance and such, that is part of the package…..hint, hint…..They paid correctly.
If all of you would like to kiss all of us, we would love it. You are the ones who ” F” ed us, not ORC………And it is so obvious to the majority of the population here.
Who is your next victim?……I would like to know as I will not apply for them for a job, or hold my breath they will build here.
“roblester
December 4, 2012 – 9:59 am
As I all ready stated, if anyone knows of $18.00 a hour”
I guess it is true, “you cain’t fix stupid”… Stop thinking like the worker bee sheeple whom is being taken advantage of & think like an entrepreneur. I have read through corporate filings by IDM, observed presentations of deceit by ORC to county commissioners & have no problem pissing on your parade of charades. I could care less if the county land is mined. I care about just compensation to the county for its natural resources. This place will continue to be depressed as long as the local yolkals buy off on charades with the likes of the ones played by ORC.
roble ster,
Your barking up the wrong tree. My advise to you is to walk in the office of WCC close the door behind you & share your concerns with them. Maybe Dave is about to be handed another 26 million dollar consulting project that he can put you to work on… Its worth a try! Talk about ignorant, you have no idea son…
The commissioners will vote on a resolution tomorrow on the consent calendar to adopt the ORC surface use lease as amended at the “hearing”. Technically, these would mean that the lease has not yet been executed… I think
The lease is a done deal. And is the only thing holding a possible re-hire in the future……
You all want to screw that up to?
I have to get off this site, it alone is just making hate this place.I wish I were not to old to enlist. I would, and go help in Afghanistan, at least their I have a fighting chance.
Piece of crap Clark Walworth has taken down his email address on their site. Unless I missed it, he’s hiding now, and only taking phone calls. What a coward.
This stinks.
No doubt the Chamber of Consorts, the IBO and SCDC and Cam and Messie are smiling smugly at their latest ‘coup’ against the tax paying citizens of Coos County. What arrogance, like this wasn’t a set up with the signing.
Hey Cam, you wanker, what are you going to say now?
Right in front of your eyes, they did this. They don’t even hide it any longer. They are so sure of the populace being too stoopid to notice.
I hope someone can find out the timing on this , and what part Clark Walworth played in all this.
What an insult to the honest people in this county. Run by crooked, self-serving men which one thing in mind.
This is a comment page, not a dating service. Read people’s opinions or don’t. Agree or disagree. Next time you get hired on a job, ask youself why is there an opening? If something seems too good to be true, it usually is.
Opinions are fine, but when people post opinions as fact that is wrong. Happens a lot here.
I will not be coming back, the ( most not all ) comments here are so distasteful, so rude, so ignorant, and have a complete lack of empathy, I honestly if were hearing this in person end up in jail.
Have fun, keep fighting, and I hope most of you have something like this happen to you. I really do.
To the few, if couple of people I have chatted with, Jack for one, I wish you the best, and I mean that. ( see, I told you people would be this way )
No need to comment, I will not be back, only stressing me out more.
Dear Mr. RobLester, there are no guarantees of employment unles you join the priesthood where the church is desperate for people like you. You are not too old to enlist for that role in life.
roblester
December 4, 2012 – 12:29 pm
“The lease is a done deal. And is the only thing holding a possible re-hire in the future……
You all want to screw that up to?
I have to get off this site, it alone is just making hate this place.I wish I were not to old to enlist. I would, and go help in Afghanistan, at least their I have a fighting chance.”
“Help” what in Afghanistan big guy?
You been had by your own company, deal with it, we had to.
Mr. RobLester, please do not try and tell us that IDM ORC did not know before last week that they were stopping operations. These are not credible people. Even a blind man could see that Messerle and Parry feared executing that lease for a year hoping that Main would join them. Then the blame could go to Main who with more senioity should have known this was a bad deal and should have stopped them. Main is apparently not a dumb as they hoped. IDM ORC has been on the verge of collapse for years. You should have followed public information about your company. You sir have been fed baloney. Blame the local person who claims to have been the CEO of two major companies, a trustee of the bankruptcy court, a high level port commissioner, an airport commissioner for not warning you employees that collapse could happen. The IDM ORC managers objective was obvious, get the stock puffed to a point where the company principals could unload their worthless stock and could exercise and sell their stock options. If they could puff the stock by just five cents, much of their millions of unerexercised options would be worth something.
As I said in previous posts.We employees new this was coming. And it would not have if the lease had been signed a year ago. Investors were not willing to bet on a 7 year reserve, but a 15 to 20 they would have. Now, the sample drilling would have needed to be done to see how much chromite is there, that would have been a factor, although, if it were good ( as it is thought to be ), investors would have jumped in, even with the economy. So, blame yourselves and the people who stalled this, all of us do. ( ORC employees that lost jobs )…Happy Now?
As I all ready stated, if anyone knows of $18.00 a hour jobs with benefits, please let me know, I will send you my resume..Hurry though, I will be packing up soon to move out of State to mother in laws, can not afford rent on unemployment, and landlord can not afford to lower rent.
Thanks again, really appreciate people messing with our livelihood that have nothing better to do. My wife, my kids, and 44 other employees wives and children thank you also……..
Have a fantastic Christmas.
No, Ron, a lease would not have had any impact on the global market your own CEO is blaming. However, if you want to blame this on a lease then blame the two outgoing commissioners for not signing long ago
If you meant Rob and not Ron, I can tell you for the 5th time…Let me quote from my first reply above, as you people tend to ignore things that do not suit your little whining session….
” Investors were not willing to bet on a 7 year reserve, but a 15 to 20 they would have. Now, the sample drilling would have needed to be done to see how much chromite is there, that would have been a factor, although, if it were good ( as it is thought to be ), investors would have jumped in, even with the economy. ”
Did you get that this time?
Did you work there?…Did you sneak in and go to communication meetings that I was at?
Did you get to see things only ORC employees should have?
I explained this on the other topic. And said it above, twice now. Yes, even with the economy, we would have had a few investors that would have jumped on it.
I do not know how much more to explain this to you….
The more reserves we have, the more profit, and the more wiggle room to store it and be willing to wait 6 months to a year for the reserves to go down. ( but you do not know about that part )
So, yes, we would still be running, we would still be buying presents for our family, yes, unemployment would be the same, and not up by 45 people. ( do not forget the trickle down effect, it will be far more then that )
Yes, the stalling of the lease cost us our jobs. I know, I worked there. We can only hope ( but not holding my breath ) that the drilling will be soon, and the percentage of chromite will be high, and maybe, just maybe, a investor will jump in sooner then 6 to 12 months. Or, maybe some will here about this and jump in….Doubtful.
Either way, blame who you want…..We know who is to blame on this.
And blaming does not pay our bills…..
Have a awesome Christmas magix
Roblester I truly feel for you, the thought of living with my biotch-in-law is as about as appealing as getting my figs caught in my zipper. I am sorry to say that you have been used as a pawn. ORC had no intention of providing you with a long term career nor making a contribution to the local economy. You need to be resentful toward ORC not the people whom are able to see through ORC’s shill. If you would not have been distracted by chasing the pie in the sky you would have done your own homework regarding ORC’s due diligence previous to your employment. The need to do sample drilling is a lie. They sample drilled this long ago. They know what is there & now that they have a re-ASSignable lease they have a free pass to sheet on you & shop a price for the entire operation. ORC has never intended to see this through to the end. Blame yourself for chasing carrots & blame ORC for looking out for #1. How does it feel to be used?
You sir are ignorant….Very.
The only ones who used us as pawns were the people fighting. Not even pawns, we were ” hidden martars”….None of you could give a rats ass about people working for a living, and supporting families.
Your opinions are wrong, very wrong.
How about show everyone some facts to back it up?…..Verifiable facts please.
How does it feel to help put 100’s of people out of income?
I know, you all have been patting yourselves on the back, it makes you all feel great!!! …….You won !!!!…..Who cares if a lot of people get hurt, we won and that is all that counts.
I guess the good thing, really, no one reads this site, except mainly CAVE people. ( citizens against virtually everything ). And anyone that takes opinion or theories as fact are idiots anyway.
Verify your statements, I will not hold my breath.
Roblester,
Here is your ORC X-Mas present. If you where getting $18 an hour you where getting screwed. Employees of the enterprise zone where to be paid 150% of average gross income. AGI is roughly 36K a year or $17.31 an hour. Plus 150% is $25.97 per hour. Lets round it to an even $8 per hour that you where being shorted. I bet ORC did pay $26 per hour, they paid it to your Port President & owner of West Coast Contractors who setup a mining company called West Coast Miners. At 45 employees being shorted $8 per hour that comes out to be $360 an hour going into the owners pocket. Someone is going to have a nice X-Mas irregardless of the 45 employees being employed or not. Question for you, did they kiss you before being “F”ed?
Who said I was getting $18 a hour?……( show me where, quote it ) See how you ignorant people take things out of text and try to use them?
Thanks for the great example !
Also, for your math assignment. Add in insurance and such, that is part of the package…..hint, hint…..They paid correctly.
If all of you would like to kiss all of us, we would love it. You are the ones who ” F” ed us, not ORC………And it is so obvious to the majority of the population here.
Who is your next victim?……I would like to know as I will not apply for them for a job, or hold my breath they will build here.
“roblester
December 4, 2012 – 9:59 am
As I all ready stated, if anyone knows of $18.00 a hour”
I guess it is true, “you cain’t fix stupid”… Stop thinking like the worker bee sheeple whom is being taken advantage of & think like an entrepreneur. I have read through corporate filings by IDM, observed presentations of deceit by ORC to county commissioners & have no problem pissing on your parade of charades. I could care less if the county land is mined. I care about just compensation to the county for its natural resources. This place will continue to be depressed as long as the local yolkals buy off on charades with the likes of the ones played by ORC.
Have you seen the other thread where I asked if someone would like to meet for a beer?
Where I mentioned I prefer insults face to face?
Please, oh god, please….Email me for a meeting…
mr.robertlester@frontier.com
roble ster,
Your barking up the wrong tree. My advise to you is to walk in the office of WCC close the door behind you & share your concerns with them. Maybe Dave is about to be handed another 26 million dollar consulting project that he can put you to work on… Its worth a try! Talk about ignorant, you have no idea son…
The commissioners will vote on a resolution tomorrow on the consent calendar to adopt the ORC surface use lease as amended at the “hearing”. Technically, these would mean that the lease has not yet been executed… I think
The lease is a done deal. And is the only thing holding a possible re-hire in the future……
You all want to screw that up to?
I have to get off this site, it alone is just making hate this place.I wish I were not to old to enlist. I would, and go help in Afghanistan, at least their I have a fighting chance.
Piece of crap Clark Walworth has taken down his email address on their site. Unless I missed it, he’s hiding now, and only taking phone calls. What a coward.
This stinks.
No doubt the Chamber of Consorts, the IBO and SCDC and Cam and Messie are smiling smugly at their latest ‘coup’ against the tax paying citizens of Coos County. What arrogance, like this wasn’t a set up with the signing.
Hey Cam, you wanker, what are you going to say now?
Right in front of your eyes, they did this. They don’t even hide it any longer. They are so sure of the populace being too stoopid to notice.
I hope someone can find out the timing on this , and what part Clark Walworth played in all this.
What an insult to the honest people in this county. Run by crooked, self-serving men which one thing in mind.
F U.
Amen!
Thanks Ron, 44 families really appreciate that.
What a selfish thing to say…..Does not surprise me.
I hope and pray people like you have to go through this in the future, then, maybe you will ” get it “.
” amen “….What a joke…..Really appreciate that.
You’re welcome!
Have you seen the other thread where I asked if someone would like to meet for a beer?
If not, I would love to meet you face to face, maybe talk over a beer, or a soda.
Please, oh god, please….Email me for a meeting…
mr.robertlester@frontier.com
Pig Nuts likes beer… 😉
Well, who’da thunk it? I couldn’t be more surprised if I woke up with my head sewn to the carpet. (Sparky Griswold).
This is a comment page, not a dating service. Read people’s opinions or don’t. Agree or disagree. Next time you get hired on a job, ask youself why is there an opening? If something seems too good to be true, it usually is.
Opinions are fine, but when people post opinions as fact that is wrong. Happens a lot here.
I will not be coming back, the ( most not all ) comments here are so distasteful, so rude, so ignorant, and have a complete lack of empathy, I honestly if were hearing this in person end up in jail.
Have fun, keep fighting, and I hope most of you have something like this happen to you. I really do.
To the few, if couple of people I have chatted with, Jack for one, I wish you the best, and I mean that. ( see, I told you people would be this way )
No need to comment, I will not be back, only stressing me out more.
Pignuts, you have my email;.
What?
Its been entertaining roblester, thanks.
You really need to be writing in Hollywood.
And fishing in Hollywood river ?
Bad Boy Bad Boy what ya gonna do?
I told you to take it up with Dave.
Sheesh, Hooah tuff guy…