There is an odd item on the December 19, 2007 follow up worksheet posted on the County website. An award, what appears to be a no bid contract for Pincinatti Remodel was listed under Maintenance. Was this the Owen Building remodel?
Maintenance C. Request Award of Bid for Pincinatti Remodel- Maintenance
The Board awarded the bid to Harmon Construction in the amount of $376,900; this award is
contingent upon no contractors protest.
When was this project put out to bid? Anyone who knows please let me know.
OMGAWD !!!
The Dastardly Egg Timer extraordinaire has now been re-tooled to ONE FREAKIN MINUTE !!
It’s Egg Timers On Steroids.
Nikky, please, please, no more. No more dastardly tings and chings and ringing bells.
Nikky, who gives you these ideas?
The fact you have chosen to thwart the peoples’ speech, only makes them worse, don’t ya know?
Your operating behind closed doors is what got us here, right?
Maybe Legal Council has steroided from Dastardly Egg Timers to The Man !
They are really, really frightened of free speech aren’t they? What is that saying about the last bastion of a fool is what?
My Mama always told me “people who operate in secrecy, ALWAYS have something to hide.
This Commission is crumbling, and we have to help the very educated Mr. Main put it back together. Thank Gawd the people see it.
All the locked doors in the Courthouse are going to be opened, and we’re taking away their keys.
Hear that G-Man?
So, does anyone know if Wittless can whip out her very accurate, very precise Egg Timer on us? After driving 30 minutes to attend a meeting, can she legally limit my speaking time to three minutes?
Also, by moving public comments to the – Whenever that is – AFTER their meetings? This, and they know it, stifles the publics’ ability to participate as who can sit two, three hours before being allowed to speak.
And MY Big Kahuna, can they require the public to write all questions down for screening to see if they can answer? They are doing this deliberatly to control the message.
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IT’S LEGAL?
County business? The World? Ha !
The World has scrubbed all mention of a problem.
Oregon’s open meeting laws have, only been in effect since 1973. What a set back that must have been. I wanted to add a distinction of process which can become like mud when trying to understand. Oregon has open meeting laws. Where there is proper notice in local papers, or posting in certain places which include a time of posting, The posting must be so many days before the meeting.
Just where and when did Kevin Stufflebean disclose the layoff of 22 Coos County Road Department workers, using words, such as, “that leaves 14 workers, because were letting 22 go†prior to December 31, 2008? Apparently no one can find it in a public meeting session before the 31st. The solution, if it has any importance, is a public document request for the recording of the executive meeting on December 16, just at the end of the morning Work Session- Budget Issues, 2008. If the release is denied, can appeal.
“A governing body may set a meeting solely to hold an executive session as long as it gives appropriate public notice. Notice requirements for executive sessions are the same as for regular, special or emergency meetings. However, labor negotiations conducted in executive session are not subject to public-notice requirements. Notice of an executive session must cite the specific law that authorizes the executive session. This authorization also must be announced before going into the executive session.â€
There are some very clear guide lines about the subject(s) of these executive sessions and the attendance of media. The Media is the only link to the public. However Media most times are formally ask not to disclosed information that is the subject of the executive session. I am sure a rule or two can be bent when combining subjects.
A caveat is, if the talk strays from the announce meeting subject, the media can without disclosure, of when and how, disclose what the stray talk was about, without telling the governing body the details. WOAH, that may restrict big mouth disloyal reporters from government meetings.
I remember the old times in Coos Bay, just as Joann Verger became mayor, and the world Editor changed hands and the South Coast Development Council was born. Up to that time, those off subject topics in the executive sessions of the Council meetings, were in the newspaper. But with the new ruling class, changes for the coalition developed and information disappeared.
Conclusion, executive meeting are a private meeting held in a manner as described in the Oregon Revised Statutes, under the Oregon open meeting laws, with conditions.
This the current best site for information.
http://www.open-oregon.com/
http://blog.oregonlive.com/oldtown/2008/01/A%20Quick%20Reference%20Guide%20to%20Oregon's%20Public%20Meetings%20Law.pdf
http://www.open-oregon.com/New_Pages/192-610.shtml
Hooraw, “M†for providing a place for rants.
Happily we are free here to report without regard for advertisers or local political pressure. It doesn’t pay well but it is satisfying and a crucial part of defending democracy.
Thank you again for your kind words
I am tickled to see a detective! I have just found your page. I have grown frustrated with the World Lump! For defenders of the first amendment, they are the worst offenders.
Thank you Den. I’m so glad the citizens are paying attention. With more of us watching, I think the Two Mousketeers will be a little more aware that they work for US !
In case you missed this, a little history and rant, after the fact.
So what did Stufflebean choose, and the other commissioners support.? Use county general funds to support building maintenance not for law enforcement. A terrible mistake. Made in a vacuum, with out public input, no hearings.
http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2008/05/24/news/doc48379985ea912497045049.txt
I miss the Watch Dog voices of Coos County. “Mike the Bear†talk show, Del Richardson of the Coquille Valley Sentinel. Our radio stations and Newspapers have become owned and controlled by influence which feed us nonsensical information about what is really happening in our community. http://www.theworldforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=152
The county commissioners decision to take this year timber payments, place them in reserve, use them for building remodel and other programs is an un wise decision. How about using them for county law enforcement?
Shufflebean was a Coos Bay Councilor during that cities financial crises, when there was money for computers, but no money for law enforcement. Again he is in a position of financial decisions, now at the County, also buying computers, Is another financial crises, brewing county wide? http://www.coosbay.org/cb/MC/stufflebean.htm
Such a decision, with out public comment and hearings, by the County Commissioners has placed our County citizens in jeopardy. Stufflebean’s proposal and support of use of the funds supports his platform for public office. Google, Shufflebean coos bay, Then, “begins his run for County Commissionerâ€.
http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2006/02/06/news/news0302062006.prt
Including his action in support for the Coos Bay Chronic Disorderly Conduct Ordinance, and, the councils supporting the Coos County Nuisance Abatement Ordinance. Both of which were vigorously rejected by citizens and non citizens of the county territories. Even at the expense of the County using fraudulent information as justification for their new enforcement ordinance.
If safety of employees, because of earthquake, were an issue those employee departments could be housed in other, county building locations or in public rented space, and still function as a department, for far less money. The only building that will survive a sever earthquake in Coos County is the Blank Check for the new Coos Bay fire station, and maybe the Tioga.
Denny Powell 737 N Broadway Coos Bay OR. 97420 541-269-7361
More related information
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http://theworldlink.com/articles/2008/05/08/news/doc482344ed64874124876876.txt
http://theworldlink.com/articles/2007/09/10/news/doc46e5a573b4d17805746480.txt
http://theworldlink.com/articles/2008/05/19/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/doc4831c62d74ddf383104002.txt
http://theworldlink.com/articles/2008/05/08/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/doc48234be4625e4922190538.txt
http://theworldlink.com/articles/2007/12/07/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/doc4759a9f2377ee103446955.txt
http://theworldlink.com/shared-content/search/index.php?search=go&o=0&l=20&s=relevance&r=Subject%2CAuthor%2CContent&d1=05-30-2007&d2=05-30-2008&q=Northwest+natural
http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2006/11/08/election/ele01110806.txt
Sorry, ‘request for proposal’ or a bid request. Usually a RFP will itemize the scope of work, bond requirements, etc…
What does “RFP” stand for?
Thank you linski, for the confirmation. Now we just need to find out when it went to bid – there is some data here http://www.reedconstructiondata.com/projects/1000781360/
It appears from this link the bid closed December 18 and was awarded the very next day. There is no information as to when the RFP went out or how long there was to bid the project. We will probably have to submit a public records request ( http://www.co.coos.or.us/publicrecord/index.html) to see the RFP and the bids, etc…
yes, that is correct, Pincinatti Building is now the Owen Building.